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	<title>Comments on: So Just Where Is Verizon On This Whole BPL / IBEC Implementation???</title>
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		<title>By: NCL Mag</title>
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		<dc:creator>NCL Mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonnie &amp; Dan, lots of this depends on which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nteloswireless.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nTelos&lt;/a&gt; service you are using. Know this gets very confusing. If you have had it for any length of time, you are probably using the older &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ntelos.com/landline/pdfs/portbro_modem.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Navini modem type service&lt;/a&gt;. A little box with a flip up style of antenna. I am not totally sure on this, but I think they will eventually phase that out for the very reasons you mention. It can be very unreliable in poor weather, and once the foliage comes back in the summer months it many times becomes worse as well. The 3G wireless mobile broadband is the standard, more or less, now in the wireless broadband arena. Not to say that others don&#039;t work, but the technology is working in that direction.

BPL, if it ever gets up and works, may be the best solution for you. It&#039;s just unclear at this point how reliable or unreliable the service will be since they have yet to get their network up and optimized.  BPL has many inherent problems, but if they can get the net stable once they bring it up, it will serve some areas that have no other choice. 

Yes, on Hughesnet Satellite we can view videos from most websites and from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;youtube.com&lt;/a&gt; The problem you get into with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hughesnet.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hughes&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.wildblue.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wildblue&lt;/a&gt;, their competitor, is a restriction to so much usage within a 24 hour period. And viewing videos it doesn&#039;t take long to exceed their daily allotment. Hughes will cut you back to dialup speeds for 24 hours, WB for 30 days! If you exceed their threshold, and they are both very expensive. 

As for the promised speeds by &lt;a href=&quot;http://bpl.coop/residential.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IBEC for BPL, the current package according to the information on their published website,&lt;/a&gt; says it will be 256K for 29.95 per month, which frankly for speed is nothing in this day and time. Better than dialup, you bet, but left in the dust to most anything else. Now if they can provide the upper tiers of service listed there, 1,3 and 5 mbps, now we&#039;re talking! But as you can see from their website you are getting into some pricey territory, and I would have to see 5 mbps working to ever believe that BPL can deliver that on a consistent basis. But believe me, I would love for them to prove me wrong, that would be fantastic news!

I will know much more on the nTelos potential after a Friday meeting and I&#039;ll pass that on here!

-T-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonnie &amp; Dan, lots of this depends on which <a href="http://www.nteloswireless.com" rel="nofollow">nTelos</a> service you are using. Know this gets very confusing. If you have had it for any length of time, you are probably using the older <a href="http://www.ntelos.com/landline/pdfs/portbro_modem.pdf" rel="nofollow">Navini modem type service</a>. A little box with a flip up style of antenna. I am not totally sure on this, but I think they will eventually phase that out for the very reasons you mention. It can be very unreliable in poor weather, and once the foliage comes back in the summer months it many times becomes worse as well. The 3G wireless mobile broadband is the standard, more or less, now in the wireless broadband arena. Not to say that others don&#8217;t work, but the technology is working in that direction.</p>
<p>BPL, if it ever gets up and works, may be the best solution for you. It&#8217;s just unclear at this point how reliable or unreliable the service will be since they have yet to get their network up and optimized.  BPL has many inherent problems, but if they can get the net stable once they bring it up, it will serve some areas that have no other choice. </p>
<p>Yes, on Hughesnet Satellite we can view videos from most websites and from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/" rel="nofollow">youtube.com</a> The problem you get into with <a href="http://www.hughesnet.com" rel="nofollow">Hughes</a> and <a href="http://www.wildblue.com" rel="nofollow">Wildblue</a>, their competitor, is a restriction to so much usage within a 24 hour period. And viewing videos it doesn&#8217;t take long to exceed their daily allotment. Hughes will cut you back to dialup speeds for 24 hours, WB for 30 days! If you exceed their threshold, and they are both very expensive. </p>
<p>As for the promised speeds by <a href="http://bpl.coop/residential.php" rel="nofollow">IBEC for BPL, the current package according to the information on their published website,</a> says it will be 256K for 29.95 per month, which frankly for speed is nothing in this day and time. Better than dialup, you bet, but left in the dust to most anything else. Now if they can provide the upper tiers of service listed there, 1,3 and 5 mbps, now we&#8217;re talking! But as you can see from their website you are getting into some pricey territory, and I would have to see 5 mbps working to ever believe that BPL can deliver that on a consistent basis. But believe me, I would love for them to prove me wrong, that would be fantastic news!</p>
<p>I will know much more on the nTelos potential after a Friday meeting and I&#8217;ll pass that on here!</p>
<p>-T-</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Falbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Falbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tommy-

We&#039;re just trying to sort our way through all this info.  We are currently using Ntelos, which operates through a radio satellite signal.  The speed is usually way better than dial-up, but not fast enough to download a U Tube video.  Weather definitely affects connection quality, but there is no FAP problem.

Is your experience with Huges Net better than this and just what are the initial speeds promised by IBEC?  

Thanks,
Bonnie and Dan
Tanbark Drive</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tommy-</p>
<p>We&#8217;re just trying to sort our way through all this info.  We are currently using Ntelos, which operates through a radio satellite signal.  The speed is usually way better than dial-up, but not fast enough to download a U Tube video.  Weather definitely affects connection quality, but there is no FAP problem.</p>
<p>Is your experience with Huges Net better than this and just what are the initial speeds promised by IBEC?  </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Bonnie and Dan<br />
Tanbark Drive</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy Stafford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy Stafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rev Thompson,

Having had both Wildblue and currently on Hughesnet for sat internet, I can tell you the advertised speeds for the initial rollout of BPL aren&#039;t impressive in comparison. The attraction, at least for us, is hopefully more stability. WB is very problematic during rain, even light precipitation and they have oversold their capacity so many times I have lost count. A new satellite about a year ago was supposed to eliminate that problem, but from the input I have from current users here in Nelson, it&#039;s not much better. Hughes, might be considered a notch better, but barely. They are a bigger company (not always a good thing) but their infrastructure is better and they own a lot of those birds hovering over the earth up there. Generally we lose our service only when a big rain event is happening. But it&#039;s frequent enough that it is a hindrance. 

Right you are!  BPL will do away with that pesky latency issue of traveling 22,500 miles up and back. It will be a big help on secure servers like banking, etc. Sat internet by it&#039;s nature, can&#039;t overcome that. When a secure server sees all of that delay, it gets worried and takes a while to complete the request. In theory, BPL should eliminate that. It should also eliminate the issue of having no service in rain and or heavy snow events.

Sat internet has the other big taboo, download / upload  restrictions.(FAP) or fair access policy. I personally know two WB customers who blew through their allowed upload / downloads and were restricted to dialup speeds for 30 days. Hughes has a similar policy but only penalizes the user for 24 hours vs 30 days. Either one is total highway robbery for what we pay as sat users. 

Personally, I can tell you we are keeping both satellite and BPL for awhile. The roll out of BPL, for obvious reasons, leaves me with no faith that the service will be any better. In our case redundancy is a must, and I am also worried that with BPL once the switch finally is thrown, bandwidth may be an immediate problem with everyone getting on all at once. I would love to be put in my place and proven wrong on this, but we&#039;ll just have to see once it does happen, one day. 

All of that said, if IBEC can deliver what they say they can, it should be a more stable, reliable service with no FAP, and eventually some pretty nice speeds if they open it up to the higher tiers of speed mentioned. 

-T-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rev Thompson,</p>
<p>Having had both Wildblue and currently on Hughesnet for sat internet, I can tell you the advertised speeds for the initial rollout of BPL aren&#8217;t impressive in comparison. The attraction, at least for us, is hopefully more stability. WB is very problematic during rain, even light precipitation and they have oversold their capacity so many times I have lost count. A new satellite about a year ago was supposed to eliminate that problem, but from the input I have from current users here in Nelson, it&#8217;s not much better. Hughes, might be considered a notch better, but barely. They are a bigger company (not always a good thing) but their infrastructure is better and they own a lot of those birds hovering over the earth up there. Generally we lose our service only when a big rain event is happening. But it&#8217;s frequent enough that it is a hindrance. </p>
<p>Right you are!  BPL will do away with that pesky latency issue of traveling 22,500 miles up and back. It will be a big help on secure servers like banking, etc. Sat internet by it&#8217;s nature, can&#8217;t overcome that. When a secure server sees all of that delay, it gets worried and takes a while to complete the request. In theory, BPL should eliminate that. It should also eliminate the issue of having no service in rain and or heavy snow events.</p>
<p>Sat internet has the other big taboo, download / upload  restrictions.(FAP) or fair access policy. I personally know two WB customers who blew through their allowed upload / downloads and were restricted to dialup speeds for 30 days. Hughes has a similar policy but only penalizes the user for 24 hours vs 30 days. Either one is total highway robbery for what we pay as sat users. </p>
<p>Personally, I can tell you we are keeping both satellite and BPL for awhile. The roll out of BPL, for obvious reasons, leaves me with no faith that the service will be any better. In our case redundancy is a must, and I am also worried that with BPL once the switch finally is thrown, bandwidth may be an immediate problem with everyone getting on all at once. I would love to be put in my place and proven wrong on this, but we&#8217;ll just have to see once it does happen, one day. </p>
<p>All of that said, if IBEC can deliver what they say they can, it should be a more stable, reliable service with no FAP, and eventually some pretty nice speeds if they open it up to the higher tiers of speed mentioned. </p>
<p>-T-</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve losts all hope in the IBEC and plan to send my modern back. They have taken a lots of peoples money on bad planing. Also looks like they have to many cooks in the kitchen you have cvec , verizon and talking about AT &amp;T. Who knows it starting being 30 days and its been 6 month and still talking January ??????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve losts all hope in the IBEC and plan to send my modern back. They have taken a lots of peoples money on bad planing. Also looks like they have to many cooks in the kitchen you have cvec , verizon and talking about AT &amp;T. Who knows it starting being 30 days and its been 6 month and still talking January ??????</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. Tommy Thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rev. Tommy Thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 04:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everyone, 
Whenever BPL is finally up and working, do you think it will be much faster than wildblue? I currently have wildblue and am extremely dissatisfied and am worried that i am getting my hopes up with BPL.  I am assuming latency will be much better, but how about overall performance?  Will it compare to DSL/Cable at all?  Just curious...
Tommy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,<br />
Whenever BPL is finally up and working, do you think it will be much faster than wildblue? I currently have wildblue and am extremely dissatisfied and am worried that i am getting my hopes up with BPL.  I am assuming latency will be much better, but how about overall performance?  Will it compare to DSL/Cable at all?  Just curious&#8230;<br />
Tommy</p>
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